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Bon, ca va… Je ne savais pas que j’étais si vieux…
A Hanoi, dans les années 80 j’ai acheté un livre d’occase de Gavin Young : Slow Boats to China, 1981 – travel round the world by water transport
Je l’aime beaucoup : il s’embarque sur un boutre à Colombo (…) sur un autre bateau, au large des Philippines, il est attaqué par des pirates indépendantistes en Zodiac et finalement ils partent en emportant une paire de jumelles, un souvenir de la guerre du Vietnam du temps qu’il était reporter de guerre.

Gavin David Young (24 April 1928 – 18 January 2001) was born in Bude, Cornwall, England. His father, Gavin Young, was a Lieutenant-Colonel in the Welsh Guards. Daphne, his mother, was the daughter of Sir Charles Leolin Forestier-Walker, Bt, of Monmouthshire.[1][2] Young spent most of his youth in Cornwall and South Wales. He graduated from Oxford University, where he studied modern history.[3]

Young spent two years with the Ralli Brothers shipping company in Basra, Iraq before living with the Marsh Arabs of southern Iraq between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.[4] He fashioned his experiences into a book, Return to the Marshes (1977). In 1960, from Tunis, he joined The Observer of London as a foreign correspondent, and was the Observer’s correspondent in Paris and New York. He had covered fifteen wars and revolutions throughout the world, and worked for The Guardian and was a travel writer. Gavin Young died in London on January 18, 2001. He was 72 years old.

Slow Boats to China :

Seven months and twenty-three agreeably ill-assorted vessels are what were required to transport Gavin Young, by slow boat, from Piraeus to Canton. His odyssey teemed with excitement, adventure and colour. Gavin Young’s account memorably distils the people, places, smells, conversations, ships and history of the places he encountered in what is his most famous book. The sequel, Slow Boats Home, is also reissued in Faber Finds. ‘An unusual and fascinating book.’ Hammond Innes, Guardian ‘Storms, fleas, pirates, bad food and bureaucrats … My Young suffered what he did to entertain us.’ Anthony Burgess, Observer

Ce livre est fascinent, mais je crois que toutes cette sorte de bateaux n’existe plus
23 au total, ca fait un excellent livre de chevet
sisi, peut-être encore

Je ne suis pas raciste, j’ai même des disques de Benny Goodman – Slow Boat To China :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek2xzZrnhPQ
Normalement quand il y a une collision, le bateau qui flotte doit aider les rescapés du bateau qui coule.

Quant à l’émission de CO2 en 1990 puis 2005 en milliers de tonnes

France 400 000 000 puis 392 000 000, réduction de 2 %
Vietnam 21 000 000 puis 105 000 000, augmentation de 400%
De nos jours, ça doit être pire car les VN achètent beaucoup de bagnoles depuis 2005 et 4 ou 5 centrales au charbon de plus . ON DOIT EN ETRE à 150 000 000
Costa Rica 3 000 000 puis 7 000 000? augmentation de 140%
le Costa Rica n’a que 4.8 million d’habitants ; il faut multiplier le chiffre par 10 ou par 20 pour comparer avec la France et le Vietnam, respectivement

Dans la Zone d’exclusivité éconnomique des Philipines, pres du récif Scarborough, (qui n’est pas une ïle)
Un navire chinois aborde et coule intentionnellement un bateau de pêche philippin : 1 mort et 4 disparus
Ca va mal se finir !

One dead as Chinese ship sinks RP boat near shoal

Written by Mario J. Mallari
Monday, 25 June 2012 00:00

FISHING CRAFT’S CAPTAIN SAYS ATTACK INTENTIONAL

The first physical encounter between Chinese and Philippine vessels amid a tense naval standoff over conflicting territorial claims of both countries happened last June 18, or a day after President Aquino ordered the pullout of Philippine ships from the disputed Scarborough Shoal, in an incident where a Chinese vessel rammed a local fishing boat near the shoal, killing one and leaving four others missing.
Office of Civil Defense chief Benito Ramos described the ramming as accidental but Posio Balmores, captain of the motorized fishing boat AXL John, said their seacraft was intentionally bumped.
Ramos, nevertheless, admitted that the suspected Chinese vessel did not stop to help the Filipino fishermen as seafaring protocol calls, raising suspicion that the incident was not accidental.
“It (foreign vessel) did not (stop) that’s why we are doubtful if it was accidental then they should have helped them (Filipino fishermen). They were recovered two days after by fellow Filipino fishermen,” Ramos said.
The fishing boat set out from Bolinao, Pangasinan last Monday
and was reported to have sunk two days later, Office of Civil Defence chief Benito Ramos told AFP.
Last June 17, citing the weather condition as a result of typhoon Butchoy, Aquino recalled Coast Guard ships and other government vessels engaged in a standoff with Chinese ships on Scraborough Shoal.
“Of the eight fishermen aboard, four were plucked out of sea only yesterday, but one of them died in a hospital,” Ramos said. “Four more are still missing.”
The rescued fishermen told authorities they believed the vessel which collided with their boat was Chinese, Ramos said, though this could not be independently verified. Chinese embassy officials were not available for comment yesterday.
Ramos said the incident occurred north of Scarborough Shoal where the Philippines and China have been engaged in a tense stand off since April.
“It’s north of the Scarborough, though we could not determine how far in terms of distance or nautical miles,” he said.
President Aquino last June 17 ordered two Philippine ships to pull out from the shoal during bad weather, a move that the Chinese said calmed tensions in the area.
While China said it would also ask its fishermen to leave the area, it stressed it had no intention of pulling out its bigger ships from there.
As of last week, there were still seven Chinese ships at the shoal, according to Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA).
The dispute began in April after Chinese government vessels blocked Philippine ships from arresting Chinese fishermen near the shoal.
Since then, both countries have maintained ships there to press their respective claims to the area.
China has claimed nearly all of the South China Sea, even waters close to the coasts of neighbouring countries. The Philippines has maintained that the shoal is well within its 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone.
The shoal sits about 230 kilometers (140 miles) from the Philippines’ main island of Luzon. The nearest major Chinese landmass is 1,200 km northwest of the shoal, according to Philippine navy maps.
Ramos said AXL John was anchored with payaw or fishing nets deployed in Bolinao town last June 18 when a Chinese fishing vessel rammed them, causing their boat to sink.
The lone fatality was identified as Christopher Balmores, who died while undergoing treatment at a local hospital in Ilocos Sur, where they were recovered two days after the incident.
Rescued were Posio Balmores, Lino Damian and Boy Balmores. They are now recuperating at the Gabriela Silang General Hospital in Ilocos Sur. The four were recovered in Magsingan in that province.
Still missing are Fred Celino, Arnold Garcia, Domy delos Santos and Amante Resonable.
Ramos said the fishing boat AXL John, owned by Jonalyn Hondrada Camacho, subsequently sank.
The NDRRMC executive director said authorities had yet to determine the origin of the Chinese fishing vessel, whether Taiwan or China.
“It is still not known whether (the foreign fishing vessel) was from Taiwan or China,” Ramos said.
He said the owner of the fishing boat had yet to cooperate with authorities investigating the incident.
The place of the incident, Ramos said, was approximately 160 to 180 nautical miles off the disputed Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal in the West Philippine Sea.
According to Ramos, there were huge waves due to a storm surge prevailing in the area where the Filipino fishing boat sank.
Ramos said that search and rescue operations were ongoing for the four fishermen who remained missing, particularly in Ilocos Sur province.
Despite a warning by the Philippine Coast Guard and the police, all eight fishermen insisted on leaving Bolinao at 1:00 a.m. of June 18 on a fishing expedition in the West Philippine Sea and have since not returned home.
It was learned that the fishermen ignored all warnings for them not to sail to the West Philippine Sea as storm Butchoy was still raging in the eastern seaboard of Luzon at that time.
The crewmen of the ill-fated fishing boat were reportedly from Barangays Concordia and Arnedo in Bolinao.
Balmores told Honrado by phone that in order to protect themselves from being blown away by the storm, they anchored off and tied their boat to a payaw they found in mid-sea.
They were safe for a while but then an unnamed vessel arrived and obviously intentionally bumped their motorized fishing boat, causing it to sink.
Only four men, one of whom was Posio Balmores, managed to save themselves by clinging to the floating remnants of their fishing boat while their four companions could not be found.

Tàu Trung Qu

Tàu Trung Quốc đâm tàu cá Philippines làm một ngư dân thiệt mạng và bốn người mất tích

Đức Tâm

Hôm nay, 24/06/2012, chính quyền Manila cho biết là một tàu của Trung Quốc đã « bất ngờ » đâm vào một tàu cá của Philippines ở phía bắc bãi đá Scarborough, nơi đang có căng thẳng giữa hai nước do tranh chấp chủ quyền.

Lãnh đạo Cơ quan Phòng vệ Dân sự Philippines Benito Ramos nói với AFP rằng chiếc tàu cá Philippines ra khơi hôm thứ Hai, 18/06, xuất phát từ phía bắc thành phố duyên hải Bolinao, thuộc tỉnh Pangasinan. Hai ngày sau, có tin báo là tàu đã bị đâm chìm. « Trong số 8 ngư dân, 4 người mới được cứu vớt hôm qua, nhưng 1 trong số 4 người này đã qua đời tại bệnh viện. Bốn người khác mất tích ».

Vẫn theo đại diện chính quyền Manila, các ngư dân Philippines được cứu vớt nghĩ rằng chiếc tàu đâm vào thuyền đánh cá của họ là tàu Trung Quốc, cho dù điều này chưa được kiểm chứng một cách độc lập. Vụ việc xẩy ra ở phía bắc bãi đá Scarborough, nhưng không rõ cách xa bãi đá này bao nhiêu hải lý.

Ngày 15/06 vừa qua, Tổng thống Benigno Aquino đã ra lệnh rút các tàu của Philippines ra khỏi khu vực bãi đá Scarborough, vì thời tiết xấu. Động thái này được Trung Quốc đánh giá là góp phần làm dịu căng thẳng. Đồng thời, Bắc Kinh cũng yêu cầu các tàu cá Trung Quốc ra khỏi nơi đây, nhưng nhấn mạnh là họ không có ý định rút các tàu lớn khác.

Tuần trước, Bộ Ngoại giao Philippines cho biết vẫn còn 7 tàu của Trung Quốc trong khu vực bãi đá Scarborough.

Căng thẳng gia tăng từ đầu tháng Tư, khi các tàu của Philippines tìm cách ngăn chặn và phong tỏa các tàu cá Trung Quốc đánh bắt hải sản ở Scarborough, nơi mà Manila khẳng định là thuộc vùng đặc quyền kinh tế 200 hải lý của Philippines, chiếu theo Công ước Liên Hiệp Quốc về Luật Biển.

Ngay lập tức, Bắc Kinh đã đưa nhiều tàu hải giám và ngư chính đến cứu giúp các tàu cá Trung Quốc. Đối với chính quyền Bắc Kinh, gần 80% diện tích Biển Đông, trong đó có khu vực bãi đá Scarborough, là thuộc chủ quyền của Trung Quốc.

Các tàu của Trung Quốc và Philippines đã đối mặt với nhau trong nhiều ngày. Trước thái độ quyết đoán của Bắc Kinh khẳng định chủ quyền tại những nơi đang có tranh chấp, chính quyền Manila cho biết có kế hoạch đưa hồ sơ này ra trước Tòa án Quốc tế về Luật Biển (ITLOS), có trụ sở tại Hamburg (Đức), để giải quyết.
tags: Biển Đông – Châu Á – Philippines – Trung Quốc

L’article cité par ngjm95 est intéressant mais avec quelques petits cafouillages journalistiques !

The Chinese State Council issued a statement placing the three groups of islands and their surrounding waters under the city of Sansha as a prefectural-level administration rather than a lower, county-level one.

The state-run news agency, Xinhua, quoted a Ministry of Civil Affairs spokesman as saying the new arrangement would  »further strengthen China’s administration and development » of the three island groups.

China and South Vietnam fought over the Paracels (c’est fauxand the Spratlys) in 1974
and a unified Vietnam fought briefly with China in 1988 over the islands. (nota the Spratlys)
China controls the Paracels and reefs and shoals within the Spratlys,
according to the International Crisis Group, a research organisation.
The Macclesfield Bank comprises a sunken atoll and reefs.

Read more: China gets tough as Vietnam claims disputed islands

On nous parles d’ïles de prefecture…
C’est nouveau ça : The Macclesfield Bank comprises a sunken atoll and reefs.

C’est un immense atol, le plus grand du monde à l’est des Paracels lesquelles sont totalement occupé par les Chinois depuis 1974. Depuis, ils ont transformé la plus grand ïle en base militaire. OK c’est une ïle.

Mais Macclesfield Bank est seulement un anneau de corail de 100 km comme un volcan, le plus grand atoll du monde

Mais à 8 mètres sous la mer !!!
Bref c’est un haut fond !!!

Je ne savais pas qu’on pouvait se déclaré propriétaire d’un haut fond… et le déclarer comme la … préfecture d’une province !!!
Un haut fond combien d’habitants ?

Aussi on ne rappelle pas assez que les Chinois se sont emparé d’un récif en massacrant les 64 soldats vietnamiens qui ont essayer de le défendre. Puis les Chinois ont construit une plateforme fortifié sur le récif.
ils ont fait pareil pour 2 ou trois autres récifs dans le même archipel.

La réalité est qu’ils n’ont aucune île dans les Spratlys, seulement des plateformes fortifiée sur des récifs.

Par contre, les Philippins et surtout les Vietnamiens ont des grandes îles habitées par des familles
« China controls the Paracels and reefs and shoals within the Spratlys,  » OK, c’est exacte mais ils faut rajouter que les grandes île sont habitées par les Philippins et les Vietnamiens.

Habituelement, je passe mes vacances là, sur ce récif (c’est pas une ïle, juste un récif) avec ma tente Maréchal.
The shoal was named after the East India Company tea-trade ship Scarborough which was wrecked on one of its rocks with everyone perishing on board on 12 September 1784.
Habituelement, on m’envoi mon Benco par hélicoptère.
Cette année désolé ! ya plus de Benco seulement de L’Ovaltine

Maitenant, le haut fond « The broken coral reef rim of Macclesfield Bank, with a width of up to 8 km (5 mi), has depths of 11.8 m (39 ft) at Pygmy Shoal on the northeast end of the bank and depths of 11.6 to 18 m (59 ft) elsewhere. Within the lagoon, Walker Shoal marks the least known depth of 9.2 metres. In general, the central lagoon is very deep, with depths up to 100 metres. »
est devenu une sous prefecture de l’extreme nouvelle province chinoise de la mer d’Asie du Sud Est

Un haut fond … combien d’habitants ? 😆

Sisi J’ai vu 3 fois un Vietnamien mourir à cause d’un traumatisme crânien et 2 cm de polystyrène auraient atténué suffisamment le choc sur la nuque.
Évidement si on parle de casque fantaisie genre casquette de jockey. Un casque de cycliste est préférable mais ça coute 5 fois plus cher que cette cochonerie