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30 décembre 2007 à 17h38 en réponse à : Le premier voyage de Guillaume67 au Vietnam:The final countdown #56201guillaume67;42556 wrote::kimouss::kimouss::kimouss::kimouss::kimouss:
sinon, je te retrouve à Nha Trang, au bar La Luisiane pour qu’on teste toutes les bières vietnamiennes qui existent dans ce bas monde:bigsmile::bigsmile::bigsmile::bigsmile:
Je teste toutes les bieres que tu voudras mon Guigui, mais surement pas à la Louisiane ni au Sailing Club…Berk-Berk…On fera les buibui avec chaises en plastiques avec les locaux.:bigsmile:
(tu préferes bleue où rouge pour les chaises?)Quote:Guigui, nous sommes un peu jaloux que PPS te bichonne déjà :friends:Tu ne le sais pas Grain de beauté,mais Guigui c’est mon-ex.:bigsmile:
Quote:@Paulo: mh… si je débarque sans prévenir, y a moyen? (demande a Gui, je suis qqun de respectable et respectueux :bigsmile:)Freddy les amis de Guigui sont mes amis…Alors viens…Surtout les amis qui se sont tapés le film de Christian Vérot…:bigsmile:
BEBE;42519 wrote:Paul, trouves moi la traduction en vietnamien de Strawberry fields et oublie les deux malheureuses fraises de DEDE:bigsmile::bigsmile::bigsmile::bigsmile:Trop facile Bebe pour Strawberry fields forever:
En Viet ça fait :champs de Fraises pour toujours.:bigsmile::bigsmile::bigsmile:
« Le Vietnam,non merci. »
« Une fois pas deux. »
« Mais pourquoi ils sont pas gentils les locaux avec nous? »Tourists complain of difficulties, negative experiences09:05′ 29/12/2007 (GMT+7)
Foreign visitors in Vietnam (photo: danang.gov)VietNamNet Bridge – The number of foreign travelers to bordering nations, Laos and Cambodia, are half those coming to Vietnam. However, international visitors’ complaints reveal that Vietnam has much to learn from its neighbors.
Where has all the hospitality gone?
A traveler nicknamed Eileen 76 on the Lonely Planet tourism forum, wrote: “My friends and I just got back from a five day trip to Hanoi, Vietnam and frankly, it was a trip from hell.
Why? From the moment we stepped on the plane (AirAsia), you get ignorant and stubborn Vietnamese who turned on their mobiles mid-flight! Not one, but several, despite sterm reprimands from the stewardess.
The next day, I had my mobile stolen from my backpack. We were standing on a sidewalk near the lake, trying to figure out which road we were on and where to go when I felt a tug from behind. I turned around and saw a guy standing too close to me. I yelled at him and my first reaction was to quickly check my bag to see whether my digicam and money were missing.
The ‘expletive’ yelled back but I ignored him and walked away when I realized that, thank god, that I still had my money and camera. It was 2 to 3 minutes later that I suddenly remembered my phone, which was kept in another outer compartment and sure enough, it was gone!! And so was the sketchy man!!
To add insult to injury, a shopkeeper was sitting and saw the whole thing, and yet, he did nothing! We were less than one meter away from him. What’s wrong with these people anyway?
Oh, who can forget the horrendous traffic. Normal traffic rules don’t exist here. As far as I know, red means stop, while green means go. But to the Hanoians, both colors meant the same thing – go, go, go. I lost count of the number of times we were nearly mown down by motorbike when a pedestrian light was clearly green and intersecting traffic lights were red.
I know they like to honk at anything and everything that moves, but does that mean it absolves them of all responsibility? I mean, just coz you honked while riding your bike against traffic and nearly crashing into pedestrians, does not necessarily mean you can simply shrug it off with the excuse ‘I used my horn didn’t I’?
I’ve been to Cambodia where the traffic was equally chaotic (in Phnom Penh at least), but at least there was method to the madness. There, you just cross and drivers will automatically avoid you, provided you don’t make any sudden moves or freeze halfway. But try to apply that system in Hanoi, and you’re liable to lose a few limbs, if not your life.”
Regarding service quality, Eileen wrote: “And what’s up with Hanoian’s attitude anyway? They’re rude, crude and uncouth. OK, so they don’t really speak English. Fine. I can accept that. What I can’t stomach is the way they don’t even look you in the eyes when you speak to them.
There was this incident at the Water Puppet Theatre where we wanted 3 tickets for the 8.30pm show. The ticketing girl curtly said « no » but tore three tickets and gave them to us. We asked (politely) what does no mean – is it no, there are no more seats for the 8.30 show or no, you don’t have VND20,000 seats?? (There were two classes of seats – VND20,000 and VND40,000).
She just mumbled No again and eventually figured out the tickets she sold us were VND40,000 for the 9.15pm show. We told her we wanted the cheaper seats and again, got the mumbled no.
During the entire (one-sided) conversation, the girl was scribbling on some papers on her desk! And she didn’t even look up while we were trying to communicate!!! In the end we gave up and just gave her the money. But what happened if a person didn’t want tickets but just some information?
We encountered the same sour-faced and negative attitude among merchants around the Old Quarter market area when we asked them to take some pictures. For example, we went out to sampled biahoi (the austere local beer halls). The restaurant owner’s smile turned sour and her attitude immediately changed for the worst when we asked 2 simple questions: 1. How much (a reasonable enough request); and 2. Can I take a picture?
And let’s not forget the attitude of Hanoians in general. They either poke (if you’re lucky), shove or ram you aside if you happen to walk a little slower or disrupt their route. And what about their inability to queue? What’s worse is they think its their god-given right to cut queue? Is all this really necessary?
And before all you guys take potshots at me, note that I’m an Asian and as polite as possible, with smiles and thank yous (in the local language) to the people I meet whenever I travel. I’ve been to a number of countries, from Asia to Europe and in all my travels, never have I experienced a colder, ruder or more selfish people than in Hanoi. What happened to the reputed Vietnamese hospitality touted by everyone?
Although Vietnam is more developed than its immediate neighbors Cambodia & Laos, it still has a lot to learn from them. They should learn from their regional peers how to be warm and friendly. It’s a smile here or a friendly greeting there that really makes a visitor feel welcome and makes all the difference in the world.”
She concluded: “Thank you very much, Hanoi, for your « wonderful » hospitality. Return to Vietnam??? Not in this lifetime. Give me Cambodia or Laos or even Thailand anyday.”
A tour guide that doesn’t like tourists
An Australian visitor, Harry Ledger, who lived in Vietnam for ten months, shared the same opinion. He wrote about his “hard” trip to Ha Long Bay on BBC. According to Ledger, a tour guide named Nguyen slept and snored the whole way from Hanoi to Ha Long, except for when he led visitors to a souvenir shop, which offered items for double Hanoi prices.
This tour guide sometimes mumbled negatively and Ledger remembers most him saying “I don’t like tourists. But foreign girls are really beautiful and you will see that when you go to Ha Long.”
At noon, Ledger’s group stopped to eat lunch at a restaurant located near a railway station. It was terrible with overdone and cold food like prisoner rations. But “superintendent” Nguyen told Ledger that he hadn’t acquired a taste for Asian food because he was a foreigner.
Ledger wrote that he had lived in Asia for years, at least ten months in Vietnam and that lunch was the worst meal he had eaten here.
“But I and other visitors knew that if we complained, nothing would change. Finally, we arrived at the wharf. I saw hundreds of cranky boats swarming, aimed at the tourists. And a rickety, double-deck, 45-seat boat was ours,” he wrote.
In another article on BBC, Ledger related the desperation of another western visitor, Anna Skodvedt-Sundling, who wished for a quick end to her trans-Vietnam tour.
This Swedish girl, 26, was among the increasing number of independent tourists traveling to Vietnam on a trans-Southeast Asia tour. The girl said she was disappointed. Everything becomes uninspiring and she only wanted to go to Laos quickly because each day she was forced to argue so often with merchants over being cheated out of money. She thinks Thailand is more hospitable and convenient.
Ben Harper, from the UK, said: “When I had my pocket picked in Saigon, police told me to report the theft to tourism police. But tourism policemen couldn’t speak English so I had to return to the local police station. When I got there, they told me it was too late and threw me out. They thought it was funny.”
The above complaints are specifically aimed at tourist managers and Vietnamese locals.
(Source: TTO
28 décembre 2007 à 16h57 en réponse à : (contrefacon)Mes fausses Ray Ban viennent de ce village #56141Meme les premieres dauphines à l’election de miss ethnique Vietnam sont des
fausses…Ca se trouve on est meme pas au Vietnam DEDE,mais une copie du Vietnam…
Beauty contest runner-up suspected of forging documents to join
Truong Thi May (R) winning the runner-up title at the 2007 Miss Vietnamese Peoples pageant. She may have faked both her ethnicity and high school certificateA runner-up at the Miss Vietnamese Peoples beauty contest in Da Lat last week has been found to have faked her ethnicity and school certificate and authorities are calling for an investigation. Truong Thi May, 19, of Ho Chi Minh City took part claiming to be a Kh’mer ethnic and a man named Do Viet Hoai has lodged a complaint to the Ministry of Culture, Sports, and Tourism.
Hoai said he had discovered that May was a Kinh and had faked her high school diploma – a prerequisite to take part in the pageant – when he was on the organizing committee of the 2007 Miss Vietnam Jewelry contest last November for which she had also applied.
May’s mother had asked him to help her fake a high school certificate but he had refused, Hoai said.
She had then told him that her daughter was a Kinh and not Kh’mer, he said.
Lacking the required documents, May had been disqualified from the Miss Vietnam Jewelry Contest, Hoai wrote in his complaint.
Thanh Nien went to Phu Nhuan District in HCMC, where May’s family resides, and saw official records showing May and her mother to be Kinh.
Organizers in Da Lat said according to May’s application for the pageant she had obtained her high school diploma from the HCMC Education Department in September 2006.
Further investigations would be carried out, authorities said.
Reported by Le Han – Gia Binhguillaume67;42401 wrote:ouais, à mon avis ça rassemble quand même un paquet de gros porcs dégueulasses… (avis perso)ouais, à 17h, t’es sur le forumvietnam ! parfait !
fais un bisous à ta maman, paul :bigsmile:Contrairement au cochon,tout n’est pas bon dans le gros porc dégueulasse.
Tu fais un bisou à ma mamman et tu m’embrasses pas?!:bigsmile::icon40:pure_paul_spoon;42392 wrote:Pour 120 usd,vous aurez champagne et cotillons,plus les plus jolies Top Model
du Vietnam(les mieux refaites).La nouvelle madame Sarkozy fera partie du jury(sous reserve,info PPS…).
FTV HCM City New Year’s Eve bash aboard Mega-F Diamond17:12′ 26/12/2007 (GMT+7)
VietNamNet Bridge – A New Year’s party is to be held on Fashion TV’s five-star Mega-F Diamond cruise ship docked in Ho Chi Minh City.
Buffet dinner is to be followed by forty international and ten local models on stage in a fashion extravaganza starting at 9 pm, running past midnight, and ringing in the New Year with the Grand Final of the Miss FTV competition.The Mega-F Diamond is a 140m-long cruiser with 8 decks, over 200 luxury cabins, spa, indoor and outdoor restaurants, discos, nightclubs, casino, poker rooms, “chill-out chambers” and stunning outdoor pool. It travels worldwide promoting destinations and creating opportunities for models, designers and fashion firms.Scenes from Viet Nam are to be advertised free on FTV next year, said FTV France Deputy Chairman Uzi Garty. Two weeks of a 15-second clip now in production are to be aired six times a day.
FTV HCMC New Year’s Eve Party tickets are available at the Saigontourist Travel Service office at 49 Le Thanh Ton St., District 1, for US$120 each.(Source: SGGP
Salut Paul ,
Vas tu y aller ? Sinon penses tu pouvoir nous envoyer des photos?
Hola Lam.120 usd pour voir des dindes????:bigsmile::bigsmile:
Comment je suis fort!On est le 26 decembre et j’ai déja les photos du 31
pour toi Lam.Michel Adam le big boss de Fashion TV.Soirée FTV du mois de novembre…
Il a vraiment l’air du gros mafieux russe…Je précise que je ne suis pas sur les photos…
Ma mamman ne veut pas que je sorte aprés 17h à Saigon…Pour 120 usd,vous aurez champagne et cotillons,plus les plus jolies Top Model
du Vietnam(les mieux refaites).La nouvelle madame Sarkozy fera partie du jury(sous reserve,info PPS…).
FTV HCM City New Year’s Eve bash aboard Mega-F Diamond17:12′ 26/12/2007 (GMT+7)
VietNamNet Bridge – A New Year’s party is to be held on Fashion TV’s five-star Mega-F Diamond cruise ship docked in Ho Chi Minh City.
Buffet dinner is to be followed by forty international and ten local models on stage in a fashion extravaganza starting at 9 pm, running past midnight, and ringing in the New Year with the Grand Final of the Miss FTV competition.
The Mega-F Diamond is a 140m-long cruiser with 8 decks, over 200 luxury cabins, spa, indoor and outdoor restaurants, discos, nightclubs, casino, poker rooms, “chill-out chambers” and stunning outdoor pool. It travels worldwide promoting destinations and creating opportunities for models, designers and fashion firms.
Scenes from Viet Nam are to be advertised free on FTV next year, said FTV France Deputy Chairman Uzi Garty. Two weeks of a 15-second clip now in production are to be aired six times a day.
FTV HCMC New Year’s Eve Party tickets are available at the Saigontourist Travel Service office at 49 Le Thanh Ton St., District 1, for US$120 each.(Source: SGGP
Nation embraces peaceful Christmas12:46′ 25/12/2007 (GMT+7)
VietNamNet Bridge – It was the night before Christmas and all through Vietnam, parishioners wore helmets on their way to Christmas Mass; Santa Clause’ headgear jingled with cheer as childrens’ faces lit up because St. Nick was so near; tourists and families walking hand in hand, enjoy the yuletide spirit of this tropical land!VietNamNet brings readers Christmas photos from Hanoi and HCM City.
Christmas in Hanoi:
Christmas in HCM City:Le Anh Dung, Vo Tien, Pham Hai, Le BichTéléphonie portable : les abonnés fourniront leurs informations personnelles
Pour mieux gérer les utilisateurs de téléphone portable par carte prépayée, à partir du 1er janvier 2008, les abonnés devront fournir aux 6 opérateurs du pays (Vinaphone, Mobiphone, Viettel, HT Mobile, S-Phone et EVN Telecom) leurs informations personnelles (nom, date de naissance et numéro de carte d’identité ou de passeport). Les clients vietnamiens donneront des informations en envoyant un texto au 1414. Les étrangers devront faire de même, mais soit sur le site web, soit dans un point de transactions de leur opérateur.source CVN
pure_paul_spoon;42337 wrote:[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Noël : une animation féerique règne dans le pays [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][IMG]http://lecourrier.vnagency.com.vn/uploaded/2007/12/Vietnam/Culture/default/4281.201as.JPG[/IMG]
Des millions de Vietnamiens, catholiques ou non, ont fêté le 24 décembre Noël. Réveillonner à la maison, dans une cathédrale, un hôtel ou dans la rue, offrir de jolis cadeaux… constituent une tendance en vogue, notamment chez les jeunes vietnamiens.
Ces derniers jours, les consommateurs vietnamiens dans l’ensemble du pays, surtout dans les grandes villes comme Hanoi et Hô Chi Minh-Ville, arpentent les rues à la recherche de présents. L’image du père Noël avec sa hotte est visible partout dans les magasins et de nombreux enfants reçoivent des cadeaux du père Noël en chair et en os.
Par rapport aux années précédentes, l’image du père Noël dans les rues et magasins est devenue cette année plus familière aux adultes et enfants. Ce joyeux personnage est également de plus en plus présent dans les centres commerciaux comme Diamond Plaza, Tax, Parkson (Hô Chi Minh-Ville, Sud), décorés de façon splendide, au milieu des sapins, des rennes, des éclairages scintillants, de la neige, etc. Des pères Noël attendent les parents, qui souhaitent prendre une photo de leurs charmants bambins avec eux, et leur distribuent des bonbons.
Les restaurants, magasins proposent leurs propres programmes pour Noël comme offre de cadeaux, organisation de buffets et spectacles artistiques. Les pâtisseries reçoivent énormément de clients et beaucoup de magasins doivent refuser des commandes de livraison de marchandises à domicile.
À Hanoi, une animation fiévreuse règne sur différentes rues, surtout dans le vieux quartier. Les vendeurs de jouets d’enfant des rues Luong Van Can, Hàng Ma, Hàng Cân, Bà Triêu… accueillent un grand nombre de clients. Plusieurs pères Noël motorisés s’acquittent de la distribution de cadeaux aux enfants. Le prix de ce service varie entre 30.000 dôngs et 120.000 dôngs/adresse. « Le prix du service dépend de la distance à parcourir et de l’heure de distribution des cadeaux », a fait savoir Mme Thu Vân, propriétaire d’un magasin de jouets de la rue Luong Van Can. Ce prix représente une hausse de 30-40% par rapport à l’an passé. La raison est simple : ce service est de plus en plus couru, des dizaines, voire des centaines de demandes chaque jour pour un père Noël.
Demande en gâteaux en hausse de 200% à Hanoi
Les cadeaux, articles de décoration de Noël sont vendus partout à n’importe quel prix et sous diverses formes. Cette année, le sapin de couleur rouge, importé de Chine, est particulièrement prisé. L’effigie du père Noël et ses costumes sont les marchandises les plus vendues. Sans compter les cartes et les autres objets de décoration qui attirent également les clients.
L’ambiance s’exprime aussi dans les blogs et pages web à travers des messages, modèles de cartes électroniques…
Dans l’ensemble du pays, les gâteaux sont fortement consommés à l’occasion de Noël cette année. Selon Trân Duy Hung, chef-adjoint du Service de commerce de la Coentreprise de production de pâtisseries Hai Hà-Kotobuki, la quantité de gâteaux sur le marché de Hanoi devait connaître une hausse de 200% en glissement annuel. Les restaurants et hôtels proposent aussi des organisations de banquets avec des menus très attirants.
L’atmosphère pour Noël inonde toutes les localités du pays. À Dông Nai (Sud), la féerie de Noël est partout. Les églises sont somptueusement décorées. La nouveauté est que beaucoup de pères Noël en cristal montrent leur rayonnante trombine devant la porte de chaque maison. À Nha Trang (province de Khanh Hoà, Centre), les rues principales sont décorées de lampes multicolores, fleurs et sapins.
La paroisse Tiên Chu (quartier de Tân Hoa, province de Dông Nai) a organisé un spectacle artistique. À cette occasion, des cadeaux ont été offerts à 600 enfants malformés du Centre provincial d’éducation des enfants. Les étudiants catholiques provenant des écoles supérieures, implantées dans la ville de Vinh (province de Nghê An, Centre), ont offert des cadeaux à des centres des handicapés. Une atmosphère joyeuse et animée pour la fête de la nativité du Christ règne également dans les provinces de Dak Lak et Kon Tum (hauts plateaux du Centre).Vu Phuong Mai/CVN
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(25/12/2007)Nem Chua;42325 wrote:Dis-donc, il est pas bien haut PPS, si c’est l’arcade qui prend quand il percute une table! un sujet à développer dans le fameux fil « Combien mesurez-vous? ».Ca a beau être un topicalacon, chacun a une hauteur et tout le monde est concerné, hein. À défaut de parler de Vietnam…
(Le fameux: :Forum05:)
Au Vietnam,dans la plupart des familles,on dort tous dans le séjour à meme
le carrelage,quand il n’y a pas beaucoup de place,comme ça c’est plus frais.Donc on déplace tous les soirs la table basse.
Quand yenaplus de courant et ben cela arrive que yenacogner l’arcade contre
le coin de la table en se relevant du carrelage dans le noir;Toi yenacompris?A défaut…
:bigsmile:
25 décembre 2007 à 3h20 en réponse à : (contrefacon)Mes fausses Ray Ban viennent de ce village #5179425 décembre 2007 à 2h49 en réponse à : (contrefacon)Mes fausses Ray Ban viennent de ce village #51792 -
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